Tucker Carlson Interviews Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong: Rising Cancer Rates in Young People and the NIHGate-SHOTSGATE Intersection
In a gripping interview with Tucker Carlson, Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong, a renowned surgeon and biotech innovator, issued a stark warning about a dramatic rise in aggressive cancers among younger populations, including pancreatic, ovarian, and colon cancers. The discussion not only highlighted a pressing public health crisis but also intersected with two major controversies: NIHGate and SHOTSGATE. NIHGate, as detailed by Children’s Health Defense, involves allegations of misconduct and suppression of critical science by top health officials, notably former NIH Director Francis Collins, including the retraction of studies questioning vaccine safety. SHOTSGATE, a term emerging from a series of Broken Truth reports, refers to a coordinated online censorship campaign by groups like the Public Good Projects (PGP), which targeted doctors and nurses who challenged vaccine narratives. Dr. Soon-Shiong’s revelations, paired with emails showing persistent interference from Collins, the Biotechnology Innovation Organization (BIO), and internal NIH figures like Lawrence Tabak, underscore the interview’s relevance to this NIHGate-SHOTSGATE intersection, highlighting a systemic effort to silence dissenting voices in science.
A Disturbing Surge in Cancer Among the Young
Dr. Soon-Shiong began with a chilling observation: “What’s really worrisome to me now is not just the rate, but the population in which it’s increasing—the younger people.” He shared unprecedented cases from his practice, including a 13-year-old boy from Butler, Pennsylvania, with metastatic pancreatic cancer—a condition he had never encountered in children during his decades-long career. “I never saw pancreatic cancer in children,” he told Carlson, noting the boy’s tragic death after exhausting all standard treatments. He also referenced reports from Dr. Steven Day at the Angeles Clinic of colon cancer in children as young as 8, 10, and 11, and ovarian cancer in women in their 30s and 40s. “This is a real phenomenon of a rise of cancer in young people,” he emphasized, calling for urgent investigation into its causes.
When Carlson inquired about pancreatic cancer’s prognosis, Soon-Shiong was candid: “If you have pancreatic cancer today, I don’t think there is a 10-year survival rate.” For advanced cases, survival is measured in months—a reality Carlson confirmed, stating, “Advanced pancreatic cancer is a death sentence.”
Linking Cancer to COVID and the Spike Protein
Dr. Soon-Shiong proposed a bold hypothesis: the spike protein, whether from COVID-19 infection or mRNA vaccines, could be contributing to this cancer surge. He explained that the spike protein targets the ACE2 receptor in blood vessels, allowing it to infiltrate organs like the pancreas, colon, and heart. “That’s why you have brain fog… sudden heart attacks… pancreatic cancer… colon cancer all of a sudden,” he said. He compared this to oncogenic viruses, which persist, cause inflammation, and suppress the P53 tumor-suppressor gene—conditions he believes the spike protein may replicate.
Citing recent research from the University of California, San Francisco, published in Nature, Soon-Shiong pointed to evidence of “long COVID virus persisting” asymptomatically, driving inflammation and immunosuppression—key precursors to cancer. He criticized mRNA vaccines like Pfizer’s and Moderna’s for failing to clear the virus, a flaw he alleges NIH leaders Francis Collins and Anthony Fauci knew but ignored. “The spike vaccine does not, and to this day, does not clear the virus,” he stated, a point Carlson called “a big deal.”
NIHGate, SHOTSGATE, and BIO’s Role: Suppression and Censorship
Dr. Soon-Shiong’s revelations align with NIHGate, a term popularized by critics like Children’s Health Defense (CHD). In their article, “Why Did Journal Retract Study Showing COVID Vaccines May Cause Cancer? Emails Raise New Questions,” CHD details allegations of NIH misconduct as reported by John Davidson at BrokenTruth.TV, including the retraction of a peer-reviewed study linking mRNA vaccines to cancer under apparent pressure from NIH-linked entities, raising concerns about scientific integrity.
Soon-Shiong’s experience mirrors this narrative. He disclosed sharing data with the NIH four months prior about viral persistence and cancer risks—data he claims was dismissed. More shockingly, he revealed emails showing Francis Collins actively working to block his nomination as NIH director, a nomination supported by Peter Thiel. In a series of emails from January 2017, Collins corresponded with someone that Dr. Soon-Shiong called a ‘politician’. The politician turns out to be Newt Gingrich (under the alias “Thirdwave2”). Additional members of the email thread were Jim Greenwood, CEO of BIO a pharmaceutical lobbyist representing hundreds of pharmaceutical companies, and Lawrence Tabak, a senior NIH official.
Greenwood was a former congressional representive of Buck’s county, PA. In 2020 he turned on the Republican Party and Donald Trump and endorsed Joe Biden. BIO is renowned on this publication for pouring hundreds of thousands of dollars into Public Good Projects, an organization that provided private facebook groups like ShotsHeard, which targeted doctors, nurses, and healthcare workers who spoke out against medical tyranny during COVID and warned of risks to COVID-19 vaccines.
As journalists Lee Fang and Jack Poulson reported, Public Good Projects worked to monitor and control what it deemed ‘misinformation’.
Behind the scenes, the marketing arm of the company has been working with former law enforcement officials and public health officials to monitor and influence vaccine policy. Key to this is a drug industry-funded NGO called Public Good Projects. According to documents we have seen, PGP works closely with social media platforms, government agencies and news websites to confront the “root cause of vaccine hesitancy” by rapidly identifying and “shutting down misinformation.” A network of 45,000 healthcare professionals are given talking points “and advice on how to respond when vaccine misinformation goes mainstream”, according to an email from Moderna.
Moderna is Spying on You, Lee Fang and Jack Poulson, 11/27/2023
Greenwood is also part of the Bipartisan Commission on Biodefense, with members like Tom Ridge, who is connected to Newsguard, another group alleged to be involved in the censorship industrial complex.
The Emails
On January 11, 2017, at 7:49 AM, Greenwood wrote to Collins,
“I’m hearing that Patrick Soon-Shiong is being considered for the NIH and that the scientific community would consider that a disaster. Can you get some intel?” (Jim Greenwood)
In a response later in the day Gingrich states:
”It is possible.
What should trump know that would explain disaster Newt”
At 8:22 AM, Greenwood followed up, stating,
“I’m told today by a Nobel Laureate in medicine that he doesn’t know a single scientist who has any respect for him. It would be a disaster to have one of the greatest scientific institutions in the world headed by a person who is not respected by scientists.” (Jim Greenwood)
Later that day, at 10:40 AM, Gingrich emailed Greenwood,
“No need Am told soong is not going to nih newt,” (Newt Gingrich)
suggesting a temporary reprieve. However, at 10:50 AM, Tabak wrote to Collins,
“All the more reason to focus on what YOU bring to the table which is extraordinary, disruptive, and something he and Nation WILL be proud of!” (Lawrence Tabak)
—indicating an internal NIH strategy to bolster Collins’ position. That evening, at 8:48 PM, Collins wrote to Gingrich,
“I need details Can your guys quietly go through google etc and see if there are facts i can use to stop him newt.” (Newt Gingrich)
Three days later, on January 14, 2017, at 3:21 PM, Collins emailed Gingrich again,
“Still waiting for clarity from the Transition Team – meanwhile, loud alarm bells are going off again. Soon-Shiong is back on the list. Thiel is apparently pushing him as first choice. Assistance may be needed.” (Francis Collins)
At 4:15 PM, Gingrich responded,
“Checking newt.”
The following day, January 15, 2017, at 9:22 PM, Collins followed up with Gingrich,
“Any news?” (Francis Collins)
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These exchanges, marked as “Sent from my iPhone” and “Sent from my iPad,” reveal a persistent, multi-day effort involving both external allies and internal NIH figures to discredit Soon-Shiong and protect Collins’ control over the NIH during the 2016-2017 presidential transition period.
Later that week, President-elect Donald Trump asked Francis Collins to remain in his position. A Science report quoted Collins on Jan 19, 2017 when he was attending the notorious World Economic Forum in Davos Switzerland:
"We just learned that Dr. Collins has been held over by the Trump administration," an NIH spokesperson said in a statement. "We have no additional details at this time."
Collins, a geneticist who has headed the $32 billion NIH for the past 8 years, has been campaigning to keep his job and met with Trump last week. On Wednesday, he told a reporter at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, that he still didn't know what his fate would be. But although Collins had the support of key Republicans in Congress, he has been one of several candidates for the NIH post, including Representative Andy Harris (R–MD).
”Trump asks NIH Director Francis Collins to stay on”
Science.org, Jocelyn Kaiser, 1/19/2017
The ramifications of Dr. Collins remaining in power at the NIH are significant. Dr. Collins would later betray Donald Trump and it was reported that if asked, he would refuse a direct order from the President of the United States to fire Anthony Fauci, whose transgressions during COVID were documented in our award-winning film “Epidemic of Fraud”. Collins was confronted about this possible refusal to fire Fauci in an interview with Wolf Blitzer on CNN in July, 2020.
The issue of Newt Gingrich participating in the effort to keep Collins in his role at NIH is not unique. Many conservatives were beguiled by Collins and his claims to faith while allowing atrocities to be conducted by various agencies under his perview. 1916 Project direct Seth Gruber covered how Collins rise to power was fueled by evangelicals.
On August 17, 2009, Barack Obama appointed Francis Collins as the director of the National Institutes of Health (NIH). Lauded as a hero of the faith because he professed belief in God while leading the Human Genome Project some years prior, Collins became a link between Christian institutions and the scientific establishment. As association with Collins meant a pastor couldn’t be accused of being some backward-thinking fundamentalist, Collins’s image became synonymous with a more nuanced, reasonable faith – perhaps even a faith that was academically robust.
Gruber continues…
By the start of 2022, many believers had come to realize that Francis Collins either presided over, ordered, funded, or indirectly participated in the following while leading NIH:
· Record-level spending on scientific experimentation performed on fetuses obtained from abortions.
· Endorsement of unrestricted funding of embryonic stem cell research.
· Millions of dollars in taxpayer grants spent on transgender research on minors.
· Opposite-sex hormone treatments given to children as young as eight years old.
· Mastectomies performed on girls as young as thirteen years old.
· Millions of dollars in grants to an app program that tracked teenage boys’ homosexual activities including anal sex, all without parental knowledge.
Sure, Collins didn’t perform these experiments himself, but then neither did Joseph Mengele in Nazi Germany; both were just the overseers. Well documented and thoroughly exposed, Collins’ deeds are now public record. Surely his evangelical Christian bona fides are in the deepest depths of Sheol right? No major influential Christian leader or pastor would associate themselves with a man who might be considered the 21st Century’s “Angel Of Death”?
Rick Warren. Tim Keller. Russell Moore. Ed Stetzer. David French. And many more. People often refer to these types as ‘Big Eva’ (Big Evangelicalism) and thanks almost exclusively to my friend Megan Basham’s unyielding pursuit of the truth, we now know that these “Christian leaders” and “pastors” platformed, praised, hosted on their podcasts, and drooled over Francis Collins as a hero, “brother in Christ”, and according to David French, “a national treasure.” As Editor in Chief of Christianity Today, Russell Moore appreciates the “Christian humility and grace of Francis Collins” and said “I can’t wait to see how God uses him next.”
We asked Former Speaker Newt Gingrich to provide context on his role in helping Collins retain power. He simply stated “No”. Gringrich is currently in Switzerland with his wife, the newly appointed U.S. Ambassador to the country.
The involvement of Lawrence Tabak, who was the NIH Principal Deputy Director at the time, highlights the depth of institutional resistance within the NIH. Tabak’s role in this effort is particularly notable given his abrupt resignation on February 11, 2025, amid a broader shakeup at the NIH under the Trump administration. Reports indicate that Tabak, who had served as acting NIH Director during the COVID-19 pandemic and faced scrutiny from Republicans over the agency’s handling of the crisis, was confronted with an unacceptable reassignment, prompting his departure after 25 years at the NIH. His resignation, coming just weeks before this interview aired, underscores the ongoing turmoil within the agency and raises questions about the legacy of leadership decisions, including those tied to NIHGate, that may have stifled critical research like Soon-Shiong’s.
Francis Collins in July 2020 Interview RE: firing Anthony Fauci
BIO’s involvement extends beyond this incident and ties directly into the SHOTSGATE controversy. According to Broken Truth’s article “Pharma Lobbyist 'BIO' Paid Dem-Linked 'Public Good Projects' Who Attacked Doctors and Nurses,” part of a series on SHOTSGATE, BIO funded the Public Good Projects (PGP), a Democrat-linked group that targeted doctors and nurses questioning vaccine narratives. Through its “Shots Heard” initiative, PGP allegedly filed medical license complaints against professionals challenging the FDA’s Emergency Use Authorization, effectively silencing dissent. This censorship aligns with both NIHGate and SHOTSGATE’s broader accusations: that NIH and its allies, including BIO, suppressed science threatening their agenda, potentially delaying scrutiny of issues like cancer spikes.
“So few people could hurt so many.”
Dr. Soon-Shiong’s interview ties rising youth cancer rates—potentially linked to COVID factors—to a web of institutional resistance. The Collins-Gingrich-Greenwood-Tabak emails expose a deliberate and sustained effort to block his leadership, with Collins’ January 14 and January 15 emails showing the issue persisted over several days, involving the Trump transition team and raising the stakes of the interference. Tabak’s involvement, followed by his resignation in February 2025, highlights how deeply entrenched this opposition was within the NIH, reflecting a culture that may have prioritized power over public health. BIO’s funding of censorship groups like PGP, as part of the SHOTSGATE campaign, suggests a broader strategy to mute voices like Soon-Shiong’s. This dual suppression—within NIH (NIHGate) and online (SHOTSGATE)—underscores a systemic effort to shield vested interests, leaving the public exposed to unexamined risks. As Soon-Shiong lamented, “So few people could hurt so many.”
A Path Forward
Despite these setbacks, Soon-Shiong remains hopeful, praising new leadership like Robert F. Kennedy Jr. at HHS to “turn this around.” He highlighted his own breakthroughs, including a newly approved drug that boosts killer cells to fight cancers like pancreatic and lung cancer—a breakthrough he believes was delayed by institutional resistance. Carlson, meanwhile, labeled the vaccine’s misrepresented efficacy “knowingly untrue” and potentially criminal, fueling calls for accountability.
Aired on March 26, 2025, this interview reignites debate over trust in health authorities, the fallout of NIHGate and SHOTSGATE, and the youth cancer crisis. With Collins’ emails now public, BIO’s censorship ties exposed, and Tabak’s recent exit marking a turbulent chapter for the NIH, the demand for untainted science grows urgent.
Learn more about Sanjay Gupta’s reporting, media deception, and more during COVID-19. Our award-winning documentary “Epidemic of Fraud” is available now, free for all.
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